Use this link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3cswgwk  My interview starts from minute 14.

Article for the Conversation: https://theconversation.com/robot-carers-could-help-lonely-seniors-theyre-cheering-humans-up-already-106181

Republished by the Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/robot-carer-elderly-people-loneliness-ageing-population-care-homes-a8659801.html